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		<title>By: Tonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree completely.  It&#039;s definitely one of those &quot;I-remember-where-I-was-when-I-heard&quot; things, and Lennon moved me so much with his music and words that I mourned his death as though I&#039;d known him personally.
And you&#039;re spot-on regarding &quot;the end of an era and the beginning of something dark and horrific&quot;... I could not have put that into better words.   It truly does seem as though that&#039;s when. . . you know, when darkness started to happen all around us.  I don&#039;t put it down as well as you, but I do know just where you are when you say this, and you say it well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely.  It&#8217;s definitely one of those &#8220;I-remember-where-I-was-when-I-heard&#8221; things, and Lennon moved me so much with his music and words that I mourned his death as though I&#8217;d known him personally.<br />
And you&#8217;re spot-on regarding &#8220;the end of an era and the beginning of something dark and horrific&#8221;&#8230; I could not have put that into better words.   It truly does seem as though that&#8217;s when. . . you know, when darkness started to happen all around us.  I don&#8217;t put it down as well as you, but I do know just where you are when you say this, and you say it well.</p>
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		<title>By: Tonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On June 25, 2000, my brother Steven was killed by a single shotgun blast to the chest.
He had been staying a few nights at a neighbor&#039;s home, as he and his wife were having problems.  This neighbor had gone to work until 11:00pm on a Saturday night, and had gone to a bar and drank beer until after 2:00 before arriving home.  He admitted to police that he and my brother had had a &quot;big fight&quot;, and accused Steven of taking his prescription painkiller, Lortab (hydrocodone).
  Police couldn&#039;t find the shotgun, however, that my brother supposedly used to end his life.  This neighbor finally retrieved it from a utility closet, saying he had thought my brother &quot;was asleep&quot; and he had hidden it &quot;so he wouldn&#039;t hurt himself.&quot;  He also said my brother had been drinking, and his body and clothes did reek of beer.
 However, in the autopsy, it was found that my brother had not ingested any beer at all, and it was determined that beer must have been poured onto his body and clothes before or, more likely, after his death.
  I saw the crime scene photographs, and I swear on my life there is NO WAY anyone could have mistaken my brother for &quot;sleeping!&quot;  Evidence that he had been shot was all over, not just the sofa where he was found, but the walls and floor, as well.  It was unmistakable!  And nobody can shoot themself in the chest with a shotgun and then go and hide the weapon.  Not a possibility.
  Only after my brother&#039;s body was cremated did the truth begin to trickle out, in the form of rumors and gossip.  But in the center of all the talk were some hard facts:  The shotgun had been in a padlocked storage building behind the man&#039;s house, and even he admitted my brother had no idea where it was or that it existed.  He offered no explanation for my brother&#039;s apparent psychic ability to have known he had a gun at all.  The police had this &quot;neighbor&quot; in the back seat of their car for over two hours, but then shift-change happened on the police force of this small Georgia PD and he was released and told he&#039;d be questioned later.  He laughs now about his luck and says he&#039;s &quot;still waiting.&quot;  Indeed.
  I cannot begin to describe what it&#039;s done to me, to have to wonder what my only sibling, my brother, went through before he died.  Until I saw the crime scene pictures, I had questioned &quot;why?&quot; in my mind only.  But now I want to question police with just that -- why?  Why did they let him go, just because it was - they said, &quot;shift change?&quot;  What kind of cops do THAT?  My own family (my children are now 17,17,17 (daughters) and a son who&#039;s ten) has paid a terrible price for this travesty, and I will never be the same mother and wife and person I was before losing my brother.
  To allow a family to believe a loved one has taken his life when  he has not is purely evil, and to know this excuse-of-a-man has laughed about his death makes me want to go after him myself, but I have a young son who needs me, so relocating to Death Row isn&#039;t an option.
But this man, who allegedly drinks and likes to talk about his crime, can be exposed and made to answer for his crime.  He isn&#039;t hard to find.
  I believe in my heart that he will certainly pay for this one day in the hereafter, but a big part of me says that&#039;s not enough.  He should be exposed and taken in like any other murderer.  The difference in my life since losing Steven is extraordinary - I&#039;m not the same in any way, and the whole family has suffered irrepairable harm.
  I can&#039;t think of &quot;murder&quot; without remembering.... I can&#039;t do ANYthing without remembering.  To say it&#039;s ruined my life is actually an understatement.  I see my brother&#039;s murder in my sleep, I think about it all the time, even though I try so hard to let it go.
I know I&#039;ll never truly do that until his killer has been given justice.

*     *     *     *     *     *     *     *     *     *

  Another murder that haunts me is the 1993 SENSELESS abduction of 2-year-old James Bulger, from a shopping mall in Merseyside, England.  Little James was led by his tiny hand (the image caught by CC cameras is frozen in time and was seen worldwide) by a ten-year-old boy, away from the safety of his mother, who had turned her attention to a butcher for less than two minutes.
  The boy was Jon Venables who, with his pal Robert Thompson, also 10, led &quot;Jamie&quot; away from his mother and on an over-two-mile hike to some train tracks and, ultimately, to his terrible death.
  Little Jamie was seen being led by these two 10-year-olds by no less than 38 people in and around town, some who even asked the boys about him, as he had a gash on his head early when the boys dropped him head-first onto concrete because he wouldn&#039;t look at his own reflection in a pond.  When they did finally reach the railroad tracks, the boys splashed his face with blue paint that they&#039;d stolen in the mall.  He was then beaten,  -- and beaten, and beaten -- with an over-20-pound metal bar, large concrete bricks, and rocks about his entire body by both the boys.  When the boys were later questioned about why they had beat him so MUCH, they said, &quot;He just kept getting back up!&quot;  Jesus.
  The boys beat this child so badly that his head was literally caved in by their dozens of blows to the head with sharp rocks.  Batteries, AA&#039;s that were also stolen, were inserted into him (it&#039;s questionable exactly how and where) and his private parts had been manipulated.  Then the boys laid his broken body over the train tracks and covered his face with stones, apparently thinking it would be seen as an accident by a careless boy who played on the tracks.  He was not dead when put on the tracks, but died before the train came and literally cut his tiny body in two.
  The train operator said he&#039;d thought it was &quot;a doll&quot; but then saw only clothes, he&#039;d thought, until he realized, to his horror, what he was seeing was the top half of a toddler boy; the other half, stripped of clothing, was found some distance away.
  I cannot, CAN not, fathom what this discovery must have done to this man, and what in God&#039;s name Jamie&#039;s mother, Denise, surely went  through -- it is absolutely unthinkable, this crime, yet this happened to her only child. . . it must have been horrific... God knows how she made it through their trial, which put them out of the public for only eight years.
  Incidentally, Jon Venables and Robert Thompson were released when they were 18, and England provided them with new, secret identities, college degrees, two-bedroom homes, and anonymity for the rest of their lives.  Even though Venables has married and HAS A CHILD, his wife does not know that the man she married was one of the Merseyside killers.  Thompson allegedly got into problems with heroin and is now on methadone maintenance.  His life partner, a man, shares his home.
  I cannot begin to imagine how the parents of Jamie Bulgar must feel, knowing these &quot;men&quot; are out and free to do as they please.  Incidentally, Jamie&#039;s mother recently learned where one of the killers, Robert Thompson, lives now and went there to confront him.  But, she says, she &quot;saw the pure evil in his eyes&quot; and was utterly speechless, and &quot;he was &#039;round the corner, and then gone&quot; before she&#039;d said a word.  He had not recognized her, she believes.
  Jamie Bulger was the same age as my three daughters, and I know I watched them with a whole new consciousness after these terrible murders, and I&#039;d bet a lot of mothers did the same.  He was a beautiful little boy and I will never forget what these monsters did.  That case just continues to haunt me. . . probably always will.
   Sorry if my post was too long. . . . I did try to edit, but it&#039;s not my strong suite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On June 25, 2000, my brother Steven was killed by a single shotgun blast to the chest.<br />
He had been staying a few nights at a neighbor&#8217;s home, as he and his wife were having problems.  This neighbor had gone to work until 11:00pm on a Saturday night, and had gone to a bar and drank beer until after 2:00 before arriving home.  He admitted to police that he and my brother had had a &#8220;big fight&#8221;, and accused Steven of taking his prescription painkiller, Lortab (hydrocodone).<br />
  Police couldn&#8217;t find the shotgun, however, that my brother supposedly used to end his life.  This neighbor finally retrieved it from a utility closet, saying he had thought my brother &#8220;was asleep&#8221; and he had hidden it &#8220;so he wouldn&#8217;t hurt himself.&#8221;  He also said my brother had been drinking, and his body and clothes did reek of beer.<br />
 However, in the autopsy, it was found that my brother had not ingested any beer at all, and it was determined that beer must have been poured onto his body and clothes before or, more likely, after his death.<br />
  I saw the crime scene photographs, and I swear on my life there is NO WAY anyone could have mistaken my brother for &#8220;sleeping!&#8221;  Evidence that he had been shot was all over, not just the sofa where he was found, but the walls and floor, as well.  It was unmistakable!  And nobody can shoot themself in the chest with a shotgun and then go and hide the weapon.  Not a possibility.<br />
  Only after my brother&#8217;s body was cremated did the truth begin to trickle out, in the form of rumors and gossip.  But in the center of all the talk were some hard facts:  The shotgun had been in a padlocked storage building behind the man&#8217;s house, and even he admitted my brother had no idea where it was or that it existed.  He offered no explanation for my brother&#8217;s apparent psychic ability to have known he had a gun at all.  The police had this &#8220;neighbor&#8221; in the back seat of their car for over two hours, but then shift-change happened on the police force of this small Georgia PD and he was released and told he&#8217;d be questioned later.  He laughs now about his luck and says he&#8217;s &#8220;still waiting.&#8221;  Indeed.<br />
  I cannot begin to describe what it&#8217;s done to me, to have to wonder what my only sibling, my brother, went through before he died.  Until I saw the crime scene pictures, I had questioned &#8220;why?&#8221; in my mind only.  But now I want to question police with just that &#8212; why?  Why did they let him go, just because it was &#8211; they said, &#8220;shift change?&#8221;  What kind of cops do THAT?  My own family (my children are now 17,17,17 (daughters) and a son who&#8217;s ten) has paid a terrible price for this travesty, and I will never be the same mother and wife and person I was before losing my brother.<br />
  To allow a family to believe a loved one has taken his life when  he has not is purely evil, and to know this excuse-of-a-man has laughed about his death makes me want to go after him myself, but I have a young son who needs me, so relocating to Death Row isn&#8217;t an option.<br />
But this man, who allegedly drinks and likes to talk about his crime, can be exposed and made to answer for his crime.  He isn&#8217;t hard to find.<br />
  I believe in my heart that he will certainly pay for this one day in the hereafter, but a big part of me says that&#8217;s not enough.  He should be exposed and taken in like any other murderer.  The difference in my life since losing Steven is extraordinary &#8211; I&#8217;m not the same in any way, and the whole family has suffered irrepairable harm.<br />
  I can&#8217;t think of &#8220;murder&#8221; without remembering&#8230;. I can&#8217;t do ANYthing without remembering.  To say it&#8217;s ruined my life is actually an understatement.  I see my brother&#8217;s murder in my sleep, I think about it all the time, even though I try so hard to let it go.<br />
I know I&#8217;ll never truly do that until his killer has been given justice.</p>
<p>*     *     *     *     *     *     *     *     *     *</p>
<p>  Another murder that haunts me is the 1993 SENSELESS abduction of 2-year-old James Bulger, from a shopping mall in Merseyside, England.  Little James was led by his tiny hand (the image caught by CC cameras is frozen in time and was seen worldwide) by a ten-year-old boy, away from the safety of his mother, who had turned her attention to a butcher for less than two minutes.<br />
  The boy was Jon Venables who, with his pal Robert Thompson, also 10, led &#8220;Jamie&#8221; away from his mother and on an over-two-mile hike to some train tracks and, ultimately, to his terrible death.<br />
  Little Jamie was seen being led by these two 10-year-olds by no less than 38 people in and around town, some who even asked the boys about him, as he had a gash on his head early when the boys dropped him head-first onto concrete because he wouldn&#8217;t look at his own reflection in a pond.  When they did finally reach the railroad tracks, the boys splashed his face with blue paint that they&#8217;d stolen in the mall.  He was then beaten,  &#8212; and beaten, and beaten &#8212; with an over-20-pound metal bar, large concrete bricks, and rocks about his entire body by both the boys.  When the boys were later questioned about why they had beat him so MUCH, they said, &#8220;He just kept getting back up!&#8221;  Jesus.<br />
  The boys beat this child so badly that his head was literally caved in by their dozens of blows to the head with sharp rocks.  Batteries, AA&#8217;s that were also stolen, were inserted into him (it&#8217;s questionable exactly how and where) and his private parts had been manipulated.  Then the boys laid his broken body over the train tracks and covered his face with stones, apparently thinking it would be seen as an accident by a careless boy who played on the tracks.  He was not dead when put on the tracks, but died before the train came and literally cut his tiny body in two.<br />
  The train operator said he&#8217;d thought it was &#8220;a doll&#8221; but then saw only clothes, he&#8217;d thought, until he realized, to his horror, what he was seeing was the top half of a toddler boy; the other half, stripped of clothing, was found some distance away.<br />
  I cannot, CAN not, fathom what this discovery must have done to this man, and what in God&#8217;s name Jamie&#8217;s mother, Denise, surely went  through &#8212; it is absolutely unthinkable, this crime, yet this happened to her only child. . . it must have been horrific&#8230; God knows how she made it through their trial, which put them out of the public for only eight years.<br />
  Incidentally, Jon Venables and Robert Thompson were released when they were 18, and England provided them with new, secret identities, college degrees, two-bedroom homes, and anonymity for the rest of their lives.  Even though Venables has married and HAS A CHILD, his wife does not know that the man she married was one of the Merseyside killers.  Thompson allegedly got into problems with heroin and is now on methadone maintenance.  His life partner, a man, shares his home.<br />
  I cannot begin to imagine how the parents of Jamie Bulgar must feel, knowing these &#8220;men&#8221; are out and free to do as they please.  Incidentally, Jamie&#8217;s mother recently learned where one of the killers, Robert Thompson, lives now and went there to confront him.  But, she says, she &#8220;saw the pure evil in his eyes&#8221; and was utterly speechless, and &#8220;he was &#8217;round the corner, and then gone&#8221; before she&#8217;d said a word.  He had not recognized her, she believes.<br />
  Jamie Bulger was the same age as my three daughters, and I know I watched them with a whole new consciousness after these terrible murders, and I&#8217;d bet a lot of mothers did the same.  He was a beautiful little boy and I will never forget what these monsters did.  That case just continues to haunt me. . . probably always will.<br />
   Sorry if my post was too long. . . . I did try to edit, but it&#8217;s not my strong suite.</p>
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		<title>By: Megh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m too late on this, I know.  But oddly enough I&#039;ve been waiting for someone to ask this sometime so I could just come out with it:  The dartmouth murders.  I remember reading the article again and again a few years back, trying to glean some shread of motivation that wouldn&#039;t come down to: They wanted to see if they could do it. Straight out of dostoyevsky, they wanted to see if they had it in them.  It&#039;s bothered me for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m too late on this, I know.  But oddly enough I&#8217;ve been waiting for someone to ask this sometime so I could just come out with it:  The dartmouth murders.  I remember reading the article again and again a few years back, trying to glean some shread of motivation that wouldn&#8217;t come down to: They wanted to see if they could do it. Straight out of dostoyevsky, they wanted to see if they had it in them.  It&#8217;s bothered me for years.</p>
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		<title>By: john guzlowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>john guzlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one that had the most impact on me was the one I almost committed.

I held the revolver in my head and pointed it at the face of the other person.  I didn&#039;t know what I was doing.  Or what I wanted to do.  I just knew I wanted something terrible to happen and I wanted everything that was going wrong in my life to stop.  And I wanted nothing to happen, and finally I felt so tired that I couldn&#039;t hold on to my gun or my anger or any emotion.  Everything was gone or going, and I dropped the gun, and for the next five years I walked around like a dead man.

And when I came back to life, I was somebody else.  A bookkeeper, a student, a guy waiting to become a clerk in some quiet bank.

I&#039;ve been him ever since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one that had the most impact on me was the one I almost committed.</p>
<p>I held the revolver in my head and pointed it at the face of the other person.  I didn&#8217;t know what I was doing.  Or what I wanted to do.  I just knew I wanted something terrible to happen and I wanted everything that was going wrong in my life to stop.  And I wanted nothing to happen, and finally I felt so tired that I couldn&#8217;t hold on to my gun or my anger or any emotion.  Everything was gone or going, and I dropped the gun, and for the next five years I walked around like a dead man.</p>
<p>And when I came back to life, I was somebody else.  A bookkeeper, a student, a guy waiting to become a clerk in some quiet bank.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been him ever since.</p>
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		<title>By: Gail Siegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail Siegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found myself thinking about this, driving down Lake Shore Drive this morning. So awful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found myself thinking about this, driving down Lake Shore Drive this morning. So awful.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez, Pia, that is just awful.  I am so sorry.</description>
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		<title>By: lance_reynald</title>
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		<dc:creator>lance_reynald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>au pied de cochon...
but, I think all of the hometown crew gets what you&#039;re talking about.... OPA.
damn, I really miss that place every time it&#039;s mentioned...
must find the portland version.

xo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>au pied de cochon&#8230;<br />
but, I think all of the hometown crew gets what you&#8217;re talking about&#8230;. OPA.<br />
damn, I really miss that place every time it&#8217;s mentioned&#8230;<br />
must find the portland version.</p>
<p>xo.</p>
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		<title>By: terrybain</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrybain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Pia. Heart. Breaking. I don&#039;t remember hearing about this before. But now hearing about it, well, I won&#039;t soon forget it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Pia. Heart. Breaking. I don&#8217;t remember hearing about this before. But now hearing about it, well, I won&#8217;t soon forget it.</p>
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		<title>By: EkEkEkEk07</title>
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		<dc:creator>EkEkEkEk07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks. i&#039;ll check him out.</description>
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		<title>By: Sarah Bain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Susan, this is certainly a question to get things moving along. Um, there are two in recent years that stand out the most to me. Though Laci Peterson was plastered all over kingdom come and I worked at the paper, I just couldn&#039;t stop thinking about it and her baby and what kind of monster could end the life of a child before it has a chance to breath on it&#039;s own. It was of course, only months after Grace and so it stood unfathomably before me.

The second was too local, too close to home and still too unimaginable for me to spend any time thinking about though I find myself each day pondering it. A father was driving a car with his five children to meet their mother at the mall in Spokane, here where I live in November, 2005. Another driver, crossed the line and hit them head on. All five children died and the mother, 7 months pregnant with her sixth child, went to the hospital two weeks after her children died to forgive the driver of the other car. Forgiveness it seems of a kind I cannot imagine. The driver still has not been prosecuted and rumors errupt that he was on his cell phone but the community waits and struggles to process the information. Is it murder? I&#039;m not sure but accident somehow seems too trivial. Five lives--2 years old, 5 years old, 8 years old, 10 years old and 12 years old. And the parents get out of bed each day to raise their sixth child, in a sense, an only child. Their kind of forgiveness and depth is beyond amazing to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Susan, this is certainly a question to get things moving along. Um, there are two in recent years that stand out the most to me. Though Laci Peterson was plastered all over kingdom come and I worked at the paper, I just couldn&#8217;t stop thinking about it and her baby and what kind of monster could end the life of a child before it has a chance to breath on it&#8217;s own. It was of course, only months after Grace and so it stood unfathomably before me.</p>
<p>The second was too local, too close to home and still too unimaginable for me to spend any time thinking about though I find myself each day pondering it. A father was driving a car with his five children to meet their mother at the mall in Spokane, here where I live in November, 2005. Another driver, crossed the line and hit them head on. All five children died and the mother, 7 months pregnant with her sixth child, went to the hospital two weeks after her children died to forgive the driver of the other car. Forgiveness it seems of a kind I cannot imagine. The driver still has not been prosecuted and rumors errupt that he was on his cell phone but the community waits and struggles to process the information. Is it murder? I&#8217;m not sure but accident somehow seems too trivial. Five lives&#8211;2 years old, 5 years old, 8 years old, 10 years old and 12 years old. And the parents get out of bed each day to raise their sixth child, in a sense, an only child. Their kind of forgiveness and depth is beyond amazing to me.</p>
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